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Velma LouiseVelma Louise Pensoneau Jones, wife of Lee Otis Jones, was born January 15, 1913. Lee Otis Jones, July 9, 1902-October 31, 1989. Velma was the daughter of Narcisse Pensoneau. Narcisse was born 188- He died August 7, 1961 at Shawnee, Oklahoma.

Steven Pensoneau was the father of Narcisse Pensoneau. Steven was a lawman in and around Shawnee, Ok. He was killed in the line of duty in 1891. Tilda Canoles was the mother of Narcisse Pensoneau.

The following is a letter from the United States Department of the Interior, regarding the histories of the family of Velma Louise Pensoneau Jones.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

The name of Cedro Canoles is listed on the 1903 Family Register for the Absentee Shawnee Tribe. The Family Register lists Cedro as a Mexican captive. He married Mary Ross who was Shawnee and Cherokee. Mary Ross received Absentee Shawnee Allotment #135. Tilda Sultuska was a child born of the marriage of Cedro Canoles and Mary Ross. Tilda Sultuska received Absentee Shawnee Allotment 302. Tilda was married to Stephen Pensoneau. A blood degree appeal for Steve Pensoneau (brother of Narcisse) a son of Stephen has been filed, the findings were that Steve Pensoneau possessed 3/4 degree Kickapoo of Oklahoma Indian blood. Also that Narcissus (Narcisse) Pensoneau to be 1/4 Absentee Shawnee. In addition this office certifies that Narcissus would also possess 3/4 degree Kickapoo of Oklahoma.

According to the probate of Narcissus Pensoneau, Velma Pensoneau Jones is listed as a daughter of Narcissus and his first wife, Elizabeth Little Cook, would possess 1/8 Absentee Shawnee, 3/8 Kickapoo of Oklahoma and 1/2 Ponca. Ponca blood is certified by a letter dated 3/6/1981, signed by M.M. Chouteau, Superintendent, Pawnee Agency, that Velma Pensoneau possesses 1/2 degree Ponca Indian blood.

Certificate of Live Birth from the State of Oklahoma #135-59-030213 verifies that Rhonda Louise Flood, date of birth 8/22/1959, is the daughter of Donna Colleen Jones Flood. Therefore this office certifies that Rhonda Louise Flood, date of birth 8/22/1959, would possess the following degrees of Indian blood, 1/32 Absentee Shawnee, 3/32 Kickapoo of Oklahoma and 1/8 Ponca for a total degree of 1/4 Indian blood. This letter is signed by the acting superintendent, Joe B. Walker.

There is a duplicate of the above letter for Rhonda's brother, Mark and sister, Kay Flood 2. Mark Joseph Flood 3. Kharis (Kay) Esteclair Flood.

Further research at the State Archives building, Indian division, show Mary Canoles Ross was first married to Cedro Canoles.Upon Cedro's death she remarried Eck Ross a Cherokee. He accepted her children: Julia, Joe and Al Canoles.

The following is questioning of Eck Ross taken from Department of the Interior Affidavit, dated February 16, 1901.

Q. Give me the name of your father.
A. Daniel Ross.

Q. Is he dead?
A. Yes sir.

Q. Give me the name of your mother.
A. Naomi Ross.

Q. Is she dead?
A. Yes sir.

Q. How many times have YOU been married?
A. Once.

Q. To whom were you married?
A. Mary.

Q. Is she dead?
A. No sir, she's alive.

Q. Is she a white woman or Cherokee
A. Cherokee.

Q. You don't apply for her?
A. No sir.

Q. You have no children?
A. No sir.

Q. What was her name when you married her?
A. She was a widow woman. Her name was Cornalis. She was a Kell.

Q. How old is she now?
A. I couldn't tell you.

Q. Is she as old as you?
A. She's older than me, I expect.

Q. She is a native Cherokee, is she?
A. Yes sir.

Q. Has she ever married since you and she separated?
A. No sir.


Those folks on the Dawes Roll that were initially listed as Shawnee, were originally listed as Adopted or Assimilated Shawnee. They were included with the Cherokees on the Final Dawes Roll along with the Adopted Delaware and Assimilated Whites.  Positioning on the Dawes depended on what district they were living in at the time, and the blood quantum of their spouse.

Certain Districts (counties) were set aside for specific Tribes or Bands back in 1850.  By 1900 (Dawes Roll), some of the people had moved over into the next county and were initially counted as part of the Tribe or Band that was assigned to that county.


Donna,

I did a search for Cedro Canoles on HeritageQuest and found a Cedro Canalls in the 1900 Census. I don't know if this is the same Cedro Canonles that is in your line, but I'll share the information with you.

The census is from North Choctow, Lincoln County, OK. The household of Cedro Canalls lists Cedro as the head, race Indian, born Dec. 1874, age 25, married for 8 years. Born in Indian Territory, Birthplace of father Mexico, Birthplace of mother Indian Territory. His wife Mary, race Indian, born March 1877, age 23, married 8 years, 5 children born, 3 still living. Born in Oklahoma, Birthplace of father Iowa, Birthplace of mother Indian Territory. Daughter Irene, female, race Indian, born Aug. 1893, age 6, birthplace Oklahoma, birthplace of father Indian Territory, birthplace of mother Oklahoma. Son Eck (not sure on spelling), race Indian, born Jan. 1897, age 3, birthplace Oklahoma, birthplace of father Indian Territory, birthplace of mother Oklahoma. Daughter Stella, race Indian, born Oct. 1899, age 5/12, birthplace Oklahoma, birthplace of father Indian Territory, birthplace of mother Oklahoma.

I tried other searches for Mary in censuses that occurred before and after 1900 and this was the only record that I could find. My suggestion is that you review the information that you have on the Mary Ross in your records to see if the person I found is a match. If you believe that she is, then you should try to obtain vital record information for her from Oklahoma where the census says she was born. I'm not sure when Oklahoma began recording marriages, but if the census is from 1900 and they say they've been married for 8 years that means that Cedro and Mary got married in 1892. I would see if a marriage record is available for them in 1892.

Please let me know if you have any further questions about what I've found.

Sincerely,

Susan Yockey


 

 


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