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Alastair McIntyre's Genealogy


I get so many questions asking me about genealogy searches using a professional that I thought I'd ask Tony of Scottish Roots to do a search on my own ancestry and use it as an example of what can be found.  It should of course be noted that depending on your own line of descent there may be more or indeed less information available but at least this will give you an idea. This Standard Search covers research into one line throughout the period of Statutory Civil Registration plus Old Parish Registers, Census Returns etc. and costs £185.00.  I asked Tony to give me his commentary on this investigation and suggest what might be done next and you can see this at the bottom of the report.

An Investigation into the Ancestry of Alastair McIntyre

The information given in advance was that Alastair was born on 31st January 1951 in Glasgow to John Gilmour McIntyre and Isabel Brown.

A search for the marriage of a John Gilmour McIntyre failed to reveal any likely leads. Instead the computer indexing system was used searching for a marriage between John McIntyre and Isabel Brown. This led to the discovery of the following marriage:

On 16th July 1937, at 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow, after Banns according to the forms of the Church of Scotland

JOHN MCINTYRE (General Warehouse Salesman – Bachelor) age 27, of 21 Plant Street, Glasgow, son of Alexander McIntyre (Lorryman) and Jessie McIntyre m/s Brock

[marriage to]

ISABEL FOWLER BROWN (Typist – Spinster) age 25, of 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow, daughter of James Brown (Engine Fitter – Journeyman) and Anne Brown m/s Reid

Clergyman: Francis Wm Rae, Minister of Yoker
Witnesses: Arichibald Stewart, 50 Acorn Street, Glasgow SE
Jessie F Brown, 421 Langholm Street, Yoker W4

(Ref: 1937m/Partick Glasgow 644/14-186)

m/s indicates maiden surname.

It can be seen that John did not mention a middle name of Gilmour at the time of this marriage.

No birth could be found for a John Gilmour McIntyre during the period 1909-1911. There was a considerable number of John McIntyre births during this period. All those within Glasgow (about 8) were examined but none of them was that being searched.

It was decided to put this search on one side for the time being and to search for the parents’ marriage. Using the co-ordinate indexing system, this was found as follows:

On 4th September 1903, at 40 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire, after Banns according to the forms of the Established Church of Scotland

ALEX MCINTYRE (General Labourer – Bachelor) age 25, of 40 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire, son of John McIntyre (Butcher) and Elizabeth McIntyre m/s Boyd

[marriage to]

JESSIE BROCK (Spinster) age 24, of 40 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire, daughter of Robert Brock (Tinsmith and Gasfitter) and Elizabeth Brock m/s Gilmour

Witnesses: John Brown and Mary MacGregor

(Ref: 1903m/Largs, Ayrshire 602/1-14)

This indicates the source of the Gilmour middle name attributed to the couple’s son John.

A further search for his birth, this time in Largs, failed to reveal anything. A quick search of the death indexes showed that John Graham McIntyre died in Grangemouth in 1986. The certificate wasn’t examined.

In searching for the birth of Alexander it would be useful to know where he was born so a search was made for him in the 1891 Census when he would have been aged about 11. The census returns are house surveys carried out every ten years from 1841. They provide details such as name, age, occupation, place of birth, etc for each person living at the address on the night the census was carried out. Those for 1841 give far less information and the most recent open to public inspection are those for 1891.

Taking advantage of the name index to the 1891 Census, Alexander and family were eventually found as follows:

32 …*… Street, Largs, Ayrshire – 5th April 1891

John McIntyre Head Married 40 Butcher Ayrshire, Largs
Elisabeth McIntyre Wife Married 28 Ayrshire, Largs
Alex McIntyre Son 12 Scholar Ayrshire, Largs
Maggie McIntyre Daug 8 Scholar Ayrshire, Largs
(Ref: 1891Cen/Largs, Ayrshire 602, bk7, p19)

The property had 3 windowed rooms and John was shown as being employed.

* indicates illegibility or partial legibility throughout this report.

As the 1881 Census also has a name index the same family were also sought but surprisingly couldn’t be found. The following entry in Largs was however noted, it being assumed that two butchers in Largs with the same name are likely to be related in some way.

7 Townhead Close, Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881

Jane McIntyre Head Widow 54 Ayrshire, Largs
John McIntyre Son Unmarr 27 Butcher Ayrshire, Largs
Hugh McIntyre Son Unmarr 24 House joiner Ayrshire, Largs
Agnes McIntyre Mother Widow 76 Ayrshire, Largs

(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs, Ayrshire 602, bk6, p22)

Surprisingly, no trace could be found of Alexander’s birth in Largs but his sister Margaret’s birth was discovered:

On 26th March 1882 at 8.20pm at Main Street, Largs, MARGARET BLAIR MCINTYRE was born, daughter of John McIntyre (Butcher – Journeyman) and Elizabeth McIntyre m/s Blair

Marriage of parents: 24th March 1882
Informant: John McIntyre (Flesher), father

(Ref: 1882b/Largs, Ayrshire 602-11)

It is assumed that the informant John gave his mother’s maiden name instead of his wife’s by mistake.

So this suggests that Alexander was born prior to the marriage of John and Elizabeth which was found as follows:

On 24th March 1882 at the Manse, Largs, after Banns according to the forms of the Established Church of Scotland

JOHN MCINTYRE (Butcher, Journeyman – Bachelor) age 27 of Largs, son of Archibald McIntyre (Butcher, Journeyman – Deceased) and Margaret McIntyre m/s Blair

[marriage to]

ELIZABETH BOYD (Domestic Servant – Spinster) age 20, of Largs, daughter of Crawford Boyd (Fisherman) and Alice Boyd m/s Wood

Clergyman: John Kinross, Minister, Largs
Witnesses: William Crawford and Agnes Wright

(Ref: 1882m/Largs, Ayrshire 602-7)

It is possible that Alexander could have been born under the name of Boyd but still no Largs certificates could be found. It was decided therefore to carry on with the search in the hope that further clues might shed light on Alexander’s origins.

In searching for deaths of married couples it is normally preferable to start with wives as they are indexed under both married and maiden surnames and it is possible to search for both names in co-ordination.

Elizabeth’s death was found as follows:

On 13th February 1926, at 5.15, at 9 Gallowgate Lane, Largs, ELIZABETH MCINTYRE, widow of John McIntyre (Flesher) died, aged 65, daughter of Crawford Boyd (Fisherman – Deceased) and Alice Boyd m/s Wood (Deceased)

Cause of death: Peritonitis, probably from malignant condition
Certified by: John Crow MD
Informant: Archie McIntyre, son, 9 School Wynd, Largs

(Ref: 1926d/Largs, Ayrshire 602/1-8)

It took some time to find John’s death but it was eventually found as follows:

On 9th September 1914, at 3am, at 1 Lade Street, Largs JOHN MCINTYRE (Butcher), married to Elizabeth Boyd, died, aged 63, son of Archibald McIntyre (Butcher – Deceased) and Margaret McIntyre m/s Blair (Deceased)

Cause of death: Enlarged prostate, Cystitis, Nephritis
Certified by: John Crow MD
Informant: Daniel Allan, Brother-in-law, 14 Bristow Road, Largs

(Ref: 1914d/Largs, Ayrshire 602/1-39)

John would have been born in about 1851 whereas Statutory Civil Registration didn’t start in Scotland until 1855. Before that one has to rely on the Old Parochial Registers (OPRs). There were almost 1,000 parishes in Scotland, and not all of the old registers have survived. It was not really until the early part of the 18th Century that the maintenance of OPRs became reasonably widespread. The registers were usually the responsibility of the Session Clerk and some were much more diligent than others. The secession of 1733 had an adverse effect and many of those who seceded refused, on principle, to register baptisms with the Established Church. In 1783, an act was passed imposing a tax of three pence on every entry; this also deterred many from registering.

John’s birth, and his parents marriage, were both discovered in Largs:

JOHN, 2nd child of Archibald MCINTYRE in Largs, and Margaret Blair his wife, was born 20th December 1851, and baptised on the 25th January 1852 by the Revd J Kinross

(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire 602/3)

AND: 1848

Sept 9th Archibald Macintyre [sic] and Margaret Blair both in this parish. Two-days

(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire 602/3)

No trace, using the OPR computer index, could be found of an appropriate Archibald McIntyre birth in Ayrshire. This could mean that he was born elsewhere or that his baptism simply wasn’t registered.

Although only the 1881 and 1891 Censuses have national name indexes, several earlier censuses have been indexed here and there by local enthusiasts. Luckily, Largs is the only Ayrshire district to have been indexed in respect of the 1841 Census. This led to the following interesting entry:

South Whitliburn, Largs, Ayrshire – 7th June 1841

James Crawford Head 73 Farmer Yes

… … … …. …

Archibald McIntyre 15 Agricultural Lab No
Peter McIntyre 12 Agricultural Lab No

(Ref: 1841Cen/Largs, Ayshire 602, bk 7, p6)

It can be seen that the 1841 Census provided much less detailed information than subsequent ones.

The household of James Crawford was extremely large in terms of family and servants. The right hand column indicates whether or not the persons were born in the County.

Although there is no name index for the Largs 1851 Census it was decided to search all eight books if necessary to find Archibald, mainly to discover his parish of birth. It took about an hour to find the following entry:

Nelson Street, Allan’s Land, Largs, Ayrshire – 30th March 1851

Archibald McIntyre Head Married 27 Flesher Argyllshire, Campbeltown
Margaret McIntyre Wife Married 25 Ayrshire, Largs
James McIntyre Son 2 Ayrshire, Largs

(Ref: 1851Cen/Largs, Ayrshire, bk8, p6)

No trace could be found in the OPRs of Archibald’s birth in Campbeltown. It is likely that it was never recorded.

The following interesting household was also found during this search.

Lade Street, Largs, Ayrshire – 30th March 1851

Margaret Boyd Head Widow 74 Ayrshire, Largs
Alexander Boyd Son Married 48 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Ninian Boyd Son Unmarr 43 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
James Boyd Son Unmarr 38 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Crawford Boyd Son Unmarr 32 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Peter Boyd Son Unmarr 24 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
James Boyd Son Grandson 18 Weaver Ayrshire, Largs

(Ref: 1851Cen/Largs, Ayrshire, bk7, p29)

These were the only McIntyre entries in Largs and there is little doubt that the Archibald McIntyre shown was the husband of Margaret Blair and that Peter was his younger brother.

It would be useful to know the names of Archibald’s parents by discovering his death certificate. It is possible to restrict the search for death certificates by a spread of ages. No appropriate death for Archibald could be found in Largs. He may have died before 1855 or have died elsewhere.

Before leaving the McIntyre line a search was made for relevant Monumental Inscriptions in Largs. These are abbreviated tombstone inscriptions, covering a number of parishes throughout Scotland, compiled by dedicated family historians. If one is lucky, then a lot of useful information can be gathered from a family "plot".

The Ayrshire MIs are on microfiche, the only McIntyre entry was in respect of an Archibald who died in 1939 – possibly the son of John and Elisabeth who was the informant of his mother’s death (Ref: MI 9-1-97 Largs X 120 B). This death was examined but related to Archibald, son John McIntyre and Margaret McPhail (Ref: 1939d/Largs, Ayrshire 602/1-126).

The Mormon Family Search CD-ROM system provides integrated birth and marriage details for the whole of the British Isles. An attempt was made to find a McIntyre couple who had sons named Archibald and Peter in about 1826 and 1829 respectively. None could be found.

Switching briefly to the Boyd family. It was known that Crawford was still alive on the occasion of his daughter’s marriage in 1882. A search was therefore made for him in the 1881 Census leading to the following:

3 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881

Crawford Boyd Head Married 61 Fisherman Largs, Ayrshire
Alice Boyd Wife Married 50 Fisherman’s wife Largs, Ayrshire
Elizabeth Boyd Daug Unmarr 21 Largs, Ayrshire
William Boyd Son Unmarr 16 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex Boyd Son Unmarr 14 Largs, Ayrshire
Mary Boyd Daug 10 Largs, Ayrshire
Helen Boyd Daug 8 Largs, Ayrshire
Jane Boyd Daug 3 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex McMillan Grandson 2 Largs, Ayrshire
James Boyd Son 23 Mason Largs, Ayrshire

(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs, Ayshire 602, bk 5, p19)

This was extremely interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander Boyd/McIntyre, but an Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this Alexander was an orphan to a son or daughter of Crawford and Alice or, much more likely, that this was an illegitimate child of Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander Boyd.

A search for Alexander’s McMillan’s birth in Largs proved negative but of course it is very possible that Elizabeth went somewhere else to have the baby.

Although there is a question mark concerning the paternity of Alexander McIntyre, there is no doubt that his mother was Elizabeth Boyd, daughter of Crawford.

Her parents’ marriage was found as follows:

1851

June 7 Crawford Boyd, fisher and Alice Wood, both residing in this Parish.

Two days

(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire 602/3)

It is virtually certain that the following entry refers to Crawford’s birth:

CRAWFORD Crawford, lawful son of James Boyd and Margt BOYD

Crawford in Town born 14th, bapt 21st October 1821

By Mr Mitchell

(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire 602/3)

Crawford’s death was found as follows:

On 26th March 1892, at 8.30am, at Gateside Street, Largs, CRAWFORD BOYD (Fisherman) married to Alice Wood, died, aged 74, son of James Boyd (Fisherman – Deceased) and Margaret Boyd m/s Crawford (Deceased)

Cause of death: Cardiac valvular disease, Hemiplegia 6 days
Certified by: William A Caskie, MA
Informant: Alexander Boyd, son, present

(Ref: 1892d/Largs, Aryshire 602-20)

The 1851 Census entry shows Margaret as a 74 year old widow. Luckily she survived until 1862 when her death was found as follows:

On 9th September 1862, at 8.30pm, at 8 New Street, Largs, Margaret Boyd, relict of James Boyd, fisherman, died, aged 85, daughter of Ninian Crawford (Mason) and Margaret Crawford m/s Beith

Cause of death: Senile debility, dropsy and incipient gangrene of foot
Certified by: I Campbell MD
Informant: Ninian Boyd, son

(Ref: 1862)

There was no sign of Margaret’s birth, nor of her parents’ marriage.

Commentary on Alastair’s ancestral research

The information, as presented, is typical of a standard professional search in which the objective is to get back as far as possible within the allotted time. This means that, from time-to-time the searcher has to take short-cuts and to make value judgements as to what to look for and what to leave out.

The following points are worth noting:

1. Although life expectancy was low in the 19th and early 20th Centuries, it was still often the case that some people lived to a ripe old age, Margaret Boyd – Alastair’s 5 x great grannie lived to 85. Note that Crawford Boyd, who was born on 14th October 1821, was baptised a week later. This was common practice in those days of infant mortality.

2. As frequently happens, there was a coming together of Highland and Lowland families in the mid 19th Century. Whereas, in the 1841 Census, there were just "McIntyres" in Largs, by 1851 there were several, all originating from Argyllshire. Without a doubt, all of this migration would have been by sea.

3. There is at least one instance of illegitimacy. This was extremely common in Scotland at that time. When this occurs it is often extremely difficult to find out about the natural father unless of course the parents eventually married.

A search such as this should not be treated as an end in itself, it is really just the beginning. Ideally all the births of siblings should be followed up, as should the households in all the census years.

Each generation doubles the numbers of lines to be followed, so there is still scope for more work on Jessie Brock’s, and Elisabeth Gilmour’s ancestry as well as that of Alastair’s mother, Isabel Brown.

Once the genealogy has been done, it creates the framework on which to build the family history. This task could last a lifetime. Here are just a few suggestions as to what might be done:

a) Join the Largs and North Ayrshire Family History Society. This costs only £8 per year and would be worth every penny. They have their own lending library, they organise meetings, issue newsletters, answer enquiries and, most important of all, keep an index of local families which have been researched. This facility could lead to contact with "cousins" who may well have additional information.

b) Make contact with the Largs & District Historical Society. This is based within Largs Museum and is an invaluable resource containing, as it does, over 1000 photographs of Largs and the surrounding area. It is possible that all the addresses given in the report could be pinpointed and perhaps photographs would be found of the McIntyre butcher’s premises and of some of the relevant streets.

The Society holds back copies of the Largs & Millport Weekly News from 1877-1996. A glance through back copies will give a "feel" for life in the town.

Crawford Boyd must have been a well-known fisherman in the Town. When he died in 1892 it is probable that the local newspaper carried an obituary.

c) Visit the Scottish Fisheries Museum, Anstruther. What was life like being a fisherman in the 1800’s? What type of fishing operated out of Largs? Although Anstruther is on the East Coast of Scotland, this Museum includes material covering all aspects of Scottish fisheries.

d) Examine the Kirk Session records. These often provide much additional background information on families within a parish – particularly if they had misbehaved in some way! Most of these records are kept in the National Archives of Scotland, Edinburgh.

e) Wills and Testaments – Relatively few people in Scotland owned anything of any value so there was really no need for them to leave a will. John McIntyre is shown as being a journeyman, not a master butcher. This means that he was employed and paid a daily rate so it is unlikely that there would be any legal documents relevant to his family.

f) Walk the streets of Largs – there is nothing to compare with actually visiting the place where one’s ancestors lived and worked.

This concludes the £185 search which is for one line of the family.


A comprehensive search costs £295.00 and for that you get another line of your family and in this case here is what was found out about my mothers line.

An Investigation into the Ancestry of Isobel Fowler Brown

The information provided in advance was that Isabel married John McIntyre on 16th July 1937. The marriage certificate showed that she was aged 25 and that she was the daughter of James Brown and Anne Reid.

Her birth certificate was found as follows:

On 21st October 1911 at 1pm at 5 Walter Street, Yoker
ISABELLA FOWLER BROWN was born, daughter of James Brown (Engine Fitter) and Annie Fowler Brown m/s Reid
Marriage of parents: 30th November 1894, Kelvin, Glasgow
Informant: James Brown, father, present

(Ref 1911b/Scotstoun & Yoker 575/2-307)

This led without any difficulty to the parents’ marriage:

On 30 November 1894 at 185 Hill Street, Glasgow, after publication according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland
JAMES BROWN (Engine Fitter, Journeyman - Bachelor) age 27, of 4 Wilton Street, Glasgow, son of John Brown (formerly Colliery Manager) and Margaret Brown m/s Law [marriage to]
ANNIE FOWLER REID (Biscuit Factory Forewoman
Spinster) age 25, of 184 Bellfield Street, Glasgow, daughter of Reuben Reid (Tailor Deceased,) and Ann Reid m/s Fowler (Deceased,)
Clergyman: James Weatherhead BD, Minister of North Woodside Free Church
Witnesses: William Gebbie Aitken and Jessie Goldie

(Ref 1894m/Kelvin, Glasgow 644/9-526)

"James Brown" is such a common name that to search for his birth in about 1867 would be extremely time-consuming. An attempt to find the parents’ marriage certificate, which might have provided a clue as to where James was born, was unsuccessful. It was presumed therefore that the marriage occurred before 1855 which is when Statutory Civil Registration began.

An alternative line of approach was to first search for the death certificates of both Anne Reid and Margaret Law taking advantage of the co-incident indexing scheme (using maiden and married names) for the deaths of married women.

These were found as follows:

On 27th April 1956, at 12 noon, at 247 Langholm Street, Glasgow
ANNE FOWLER BROWN, widow of James Brown (Engine Fitter) died, aged 86, daughter of Reuben Reid Taylor (Tailor - Deceased) and Anne Reid m/s Fowler
Cause of death:  Acute pulmonary oedema, Myocardial degeneration
Witnesses: Alex Lawson, son-in-law, 2196 Dumbarton Road, Glasgow

(Ref: 1956d/Partick, Glasgow 644/8-482)

AND:

On 19th July 1904, at 8.25pm, at Mauchline Road, Hurlford
MARGARET BROWN (Widow of John Brown - Colliery Manager) Illegitimate, died aged 74, daughter of Janet Law (Domestic Servant - Deceased)
Cause of Death:  Senile decay, 6 months
Certified by:  Wm Baxter
Informant:  David Findlay, son-in-law, present

(Ref:  1904d/Hurlford, Ayrshire 611/2-37)

The term "illegitimate" refers to Margaret, not to her husband.

Searching for the birth of a James Brown in about 1867 using the computerised index to the Statutory certificates would be extremely time-consuming especially without a clear indication as to place of birth.

Instead, the Mormon CD-ROM based Family Search system was employed. This, amongst other things, permits searches to be made showing the recorded baptisms/birth to specific parents (up to 1875). This revealed the following births to John & Margaret, all in Riccarton, Ayrshire:

Mary 1856
George 1860
John Galloway 1862
Jessie 1865
James 1867

This led to Jame's birth certificate as follows:

On 27th September 1867 at 0.05 am at Barleith
JAMES BROWN was born, son of John Brown (Colliery Clerk) and Margaret Brown m/s Law
Marriage of parents:  22nd December 1848, Hurlford
Informant:  John Brown, father, present

(Ref: 1867b/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611-209)

This provided sufficient information to track down the family in the 1881 Census as follows:

Barleith Colliery, Riccarton, Ayrshire - 4th April 1881

John Brown Head  Married 58* Colliery Clerk Lanarksh, Hamilton
Margaret Brown Wife  Married 51 Clerk's wife Ayrsh, Galston
John Galloway Brown Son 18 Scholar Ayrsh, Riccarton
Jessie Brown Daug 15 Scholar Ayrsh, Riccarton
James Brown Son 13 Scholar Ayrsh, Riccarton

(Ref: 1861Cen/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611, bk5, p25)

Riccarton Road, Hurlford, Ayrshire - 30th March 1851

John Brown Head  Married 23 Labourer (Coal) Lararksh, Hamilton
Margaret Brown Wife  Married 21 Ayrshire, Galston
Janet Brown Daug 1 Ayrshire, Riccarton

(Ref: 1851Cen/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611, bk4, p22)

It had been hoped to discover the parents of John and/or Margaret living in the above household in one or other of these census years but, unfortunately, this wasn't the case.

The most important finding was John Brown's age in the 1851 and 1861 Census Returns. This indicates that his age in the 1881 Census should have been 53, and not 58 as surmised. In analysing the returns, the clerks used crayon to mark off ages and this has resulted in many of them being partially obliterated, especially when examined on microfilm.

In an attempt to narrow the period of search for John Brown's death a search was made of the Ayrshire name index for the 1891 Census in the hope that he, or simply, Margaret would be found. This took some time but the couple were eventually found in Ochiltree as follows:

Loudonabon* Cott, Ochiltree, Ayrshire - 5th April 1891

John Brown Head  Married 63 Colliery Clerk Lanarksh, Hamilton
Margaret Brown Wife  Married 61 Ayrshire, Galston
James Brown Son 23 Engineer Fitter Ayrshire, Riccarton

(Ref: 1891Cen/Ochiltree, Ayrshire 609, bk4, p7)

The Property had 6 windowed rooms.

John's death certificate shows that he pre-deceased his wife by just a couple of months:

On 10th May 1904, at 5.15pm, at Mauchline Road, Hurlford
JOHN BROWN (Retired Colliery Manager) married to Margaret Law, died, aged 75, son of George Brown (Gardener - Deceased) and Janet Brown m/s Leggat (Deceased)
Cause of death: Heart failure 1 year, 6 months
Certified by:  William Baxter MD Ed
Informant: James Brown, son, 13 Alexander Street, Clydebank

(Ref: 1904d/Hurlford, Ayrshire 611/2-23)

It is interesting to note, in the census returns, John is described as a "colliery clerk, even at the age of 63, however, on his son's marriage certificate (1894) and on both his, and his wife's death certificates, he is described as a "colliery manager".

John's certificate indicates the names of his parents, thus enabling his birth in Hamilton, and his parents' marriage to be found as follows:

18th Feb 1828
John lawful son to George Brown and Margaret Brown Legate [sic], Spouses

Ref: OPR/Hamilton, Lanarkshire 647/5)

AND:

George Brown and Margaret Legate both in this parish for 2 days 4 & 11 November 1827.

(Ref: OPR/Hamilton, Lanarkshire 647/5)

Note that the mother's name doesn't correspond exactly to that given by James at the time of his father's death. This often happens and it is not surprising bearing in mind that the grandparents were probably not known personally to the informant.

Note also that Margaret would have been 5 - 6 months pregnant when she was married.

An extensive search was conducted in the hope of finding Margaret Legget's post-1855 death. This was not successful, possibly because she died before then, or because another spelling variant was used.

There is a specific name index to the 1851 Census in Hamilton. There was no sign of any entry relevant to George and Margaret. Without knowing their parents' names it would be difficult to make further progress.

Further, as Margaret Law was illegitimate, it is not surprising that her death in Galston could not be found. It is possible that there is an entry, rebuking her mother, in the Galston Kirk Session records. These are however kept in the National Archives of Scotland and are unindexed.

As the time allocated for this search had expired the search was terminated at this point.


So in conclusion, all of the above information was obtained by paying a search fee of £295.00 which I figure is excellent value for money :-)

I hope this copy of my own family search has given you some indication as to what work goes into these searches and how a good professional firm can be of considerable help. I'd certainly recommend Scottish Roots to anyone looking to do a similar search.  Do remember however that this is just my results and your results could come up with more or less information. I might add that I was also supplied with a family tree chart and a photocopy of a map showing the Hurlford and Riccarton areas.

From my DNA I'm apparently part of the clan Jasmine, one of the seven daughters of Eve :-)

And this is my DNA Y-Line

And this is my DNA Y-Line

I have some additional DNA information here!


John Henderson did a little more investigation on my genealogy and here is what he found...

My word Alastair!

 

I happened to be looking again at your wee biog. on ES and then moved on to your paternal ancestry problem! It is a ‘minefield’! I thought my ancestral lines had a lot of illegitimacy …. Your Boyd ancestry (never genetically McIntyre) equals mine and more.

Your early professional report says,

This was extremely interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander Boyd/McIntyre, but an Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this Alexander was an orphan to a son or daughter of Crawford and Alice or, [much more likely, that this was an illegitimate child of Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander Boyd......

John finds, plus attached images from GRO and transcriptions from ANCESTRY.com

YES!  ALEXANDER WAS BORN ILLEGITIMATELY TO ELIZABETH BOYD AS 'ALEXANDER BOYD' AT 2 P.M.ON 17TH DECEMBER, 1878 IN GATESIDE STREET, LARGS ] c.f. GRO Image Attached

N.B. There were McMillans living almost next door to the Boyds in 1881 in Gateside, Largs …. But no Alexander McMillan … he had probably bolted by then!

This was extremely interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander Boyd/McIntyre, but an Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this Alexander was an orphan to a son or daughter of Crawford and Alice or, [much more likely, that this was an illegitimate child of Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander Boyd...... YES! HE WAS BORN ILLEGITIMATELY TO ELIZABETH BOYD AS 'ALEXANDER BOYD' AT 2 P.M.ON 17TH DECEMBER, 1878 IN GATESIDE STREET, LARGS ] c.f. GRO Image
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1861 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Boyd
Age: under 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Crawford
Mother's Name: Elleas [Alice]
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 3 School Wynd
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 4
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_88

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1871 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Boyd
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Crawford
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: Gateside St Lades Land
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 104
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_113
Household Members: Name Age
Crawford Boyd 52
Alice Boyd 40
Jamest Boyd 14
Elizabeth Boyd 10
Alice Boyd 8 [Had illegit. Wilhelmina in Feb. 1883] Alice died 1911******m. Jas Todd
William Boyd 6
Alexander Boyd 3
Mary Boyd 1
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Dwelling: Robshill Farm Ho
Census Place: Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203578 GRO Ref Volume 571 EnumDist 6 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Alice BOYD U 18 F Largs, Ayr, Scotland *****
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm
Robert CRAIG M 50 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer (88 Acres All Arable Employing 1 Man 2 Girls
Margaret CRAIG M 39 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Farmers Wife
John CRAIG 10 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Robert CRAIG 8 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Marion M. CRAIG 6 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Agnes CRAIG 4 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John COLQUHOUN U 38 M England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm

Mary CHALMERS U 17 F Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm

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1891 Scotland Census
Name: Alice Todd [BOYD]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 115 St James Road
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_262
Household Members: Name Age
James Todd 26
Alice Todd 26
Jessie Todd 6
George Todd 4
Margaret Todd 2
Alice Todd 8 Months
****************************************

1881 Scotland Census
3 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881

Crawford Boyd Head Married 61 Fisherman Largs, Ayrshire
Alice Boyd Wife Married 50 Fisherman’s wife Largs, Ayrshire
Elizabeth Boyd Daug Unmarr 21 Largs, Ayrshire *****
William Boyd Son Unmarr 16 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex Boyd Son Unmarr 14 Largs, Ayrshire
Mary Boyd Daug 10 Largs, Ayrshire
Helen Boyd Daug 8 Largs, Ayrshire
Jane Boyd Daug 3 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex McMillan Grandson 2 Largs, Ayrshire
James Boyd Son 23 Mason Largs, Ayrshire

(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs, Ayshire 602, bk 5, p19)

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1901 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander McIntyre
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre *******
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
Occupation: Carter
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
Household Members: Name Age
David Brown 29 HEAD
Ellen Brown 26
Ellen Brown 4
David Brown 1
Minnie Boyd 18 [Wilhelmina Boyd] born iilegit. to Alice Boyd in Largs] c.f. Crawford's Birth Image GRO
Crawford Boyd 1month
Alexander McIntyre 23 ********

and ...

Name: Minnie Boyd [Wilhelmina Boyd]
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
Occupation: Servant (domestic)
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
and
Name: Crawford Boyd
Age: 1mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire ******
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
***********************************************
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
IT LOOKS VERY LIKELY THAT ALEX BOYD McMILLAN MCINTYRE
HAD AN ILLEGITIMATE SON CRAWFORD BOYD WITH HIS COUSIN
WILHELMINA BOYD IN GLASGOW IN 1901 BEFORE HE MARRIED
JESSIE BROCK IN 1903
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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1901 Scotland Census
Name: John McIntyre
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elisabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602/1
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 40 Gateside Street
Occupation: Butcher
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_231
Household Members: Name Age
John McIntyre 47
Elisabeth McIntyre 35 [age error ?] BOYD
Elisabeth McIntyre 9 daughter
Agnes McIntyre 7 daughter
Archibald McIntyre 5 son
and ..
Name: Elisabeth McIntyre
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Wife ********
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602/1
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 40 Gateside Street
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_231

The following shows that Alex Boyd McIntyre and Wilhelmina Boyd went back from Blantyre to Gateside, Largs c. 1902 where her son Crawford died aged 1 year 5 months of Croup in August 1902. She returned to Glasgow to marry John Paxton there in April 1903, while Alex then married Jessie Brock in September, 1903 in Largs !

NINIAN CRAFORD
Spouse: MEG BEITH
Marriage: JUL 1776 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

MARGRET CRAFORD [**** married James Boyd]
Christening: 21 MAY 1777 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: NINIAN CRAFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

ELIZEABETH CRAWFORD
Christening: 23 MAR 1788 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: NINNIAN CRAWFORD
Mother: MARGEART BEITH
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.


You may have a lot of data on your maternal side .... but here attached is a start back from 1894. The load of data in the  .txt file got a start from lucky [EXPERIENCED SKILFUL] guessing of the timing of your grandparents' James Brown Anne Reid's marriage

1901 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hurlford, Ayrshire [Riccarton]
Registration Number: 501
Registration district: Old Kilpatrick
Civil parish: Old Kilpatrick
Town: Clydebank
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 89 Glasgow Road Lindsays Land
Occupation: Marine Engine Fitter
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 195
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_173
Household Members: Name Age
James Brown 34
Annie Brown 30
Margaret Brown 3
*******************************************************
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JOHN BROWN
Spouse: MARGARET LAW
Marriage: 22 DEC 1848 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland

Children;
JAMES BROWN *****
Birth: 27 SEP 1867 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JOHN BROWN
Mother: MARGARET LAW
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
JANET BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 JUL 1849 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
MARGARET BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 OCT 1856 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
GEORGE BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 JAN 1860 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JOHN GALLOWAY BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 AUG 1862 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JESSIE BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 JUN 1865 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JAMES BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 SEP 1867 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
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1861 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Barleith Cooliery
Occupation: Colliery Clerk
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_89
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 33
Margaret Brown 31
Janet Brown 11
Margaret Brown 4
George Brown 1
AND
Name: Margaret Brown
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Galston, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Barleith Cooliery
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1861_89

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1871 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bailith Dollars Cottage
Occupation: Assistant Colliery Manager
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_114
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 43
Margaret Brown 41
John G Brown 8
Jessie Brown 5
James Brown 3 *******
AND
1871 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown *******
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Riccarton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bailith Dollars Cottage
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_114
***********************************************************
1881 Scotland Census
Dwelling: 1 Barlieth Colliery
Census Place: Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203607 GRO Ref Volume 611 EnumDist 6 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John BROWN M 53 M Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Colliery Clerk
Margaret BROWN M 51 F Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Clerks Wife
John Galloway BROWN U 18 M Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jessie BROWN 15 F Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
James BROWN 13 M Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland ******
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
*******************************************
1891 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 609
Registration district: Ochiltree
Civil parish: Ochiltree
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudonston Cott
Occupation: Colliery Clerk
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_214
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 63
Margaret Brown 61
James Brown 23 *****
AND
1891 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown *******
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Riccarton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 609
Registration district: Ochiltree
Civil parish: Ochiltree
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudonston Cott
Occupation: Engineer (Fitter)
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_214
******************************************

1901 Scotland Census
Name: Jessie Brock
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil parish: Maryhill
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Glasgow
Occupation: Wardmaid
ED: Maryhill Hospital
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_243
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1891 Scotland Census
Name: Janet Brock ******
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Robert W
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 121 So Wellington
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 54
Household schedule number: 45
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1891_287
Household Members: Name Age
Robert W Brock 40 HEAD
Elizabeth Brock 40
Elizabeth Brock 16
Janet Brock 13 *****
Barbria Brock 11
Andrew Brock 7
Robert Brock 1
*****
Name: Robert W Brock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 121 So Wellington
Occupation: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
*****
Name: Elizabeth Brock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert W
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
******************************************
Dwelling: 79 So Wellington St
1881 Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203670 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 39 Page 19
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert BROCK M 30 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
Elizabeth BROCK M 31 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
[Gilmour] Rel: Wife
Elizabeth BROCK 6 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Janet BROCK 3 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Barbara BROCK 1 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur

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ROBERT BROCK
Spouse: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Marriage: 17 JUL 1873 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
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ELIZABETH TAIT BROCK
Birth: 18 JUN 1874 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ROBERT WALLACE BROCK
Mother: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
**********1875 cut-off for Mormon OPRs ***************************

1871 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
death in 1872 Father John Brock Mother Mary Wright

JOHN BROCK
Spouse: MARY WRIGHT
Marriage: 27 JUN 1794 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

ANDREW BROCK
Birth: 27 DEC 1799 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Death: 04 FEB 1872 Calton Glasgow c.f. GRO Image of Death
Father: JOHN BROCK
Mother: MARY WRIGHT
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Other Children:
CHARLES BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 JUN 1802 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
MARY DENISTON BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 DEC 1805 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
JAMES DENNISTOUN BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAY 1815 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

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1871 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Annuitant
ED: 50
Household schedule number: 10
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_131
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 71
Jannet Brock 39
Andrew Brock 22
Robert Brock 20
Jannet Brock 9
****
Name: Jannet Brock
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
******
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Tinnplate Worker
*****
Name: Robert Brock
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Tinnplate Worker
******
Name: Jannet Brock
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
********************************************************
ANDREW BROCK
Spouse: JANET WALLACE
Marriage: 31 DEC 1847 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

ANDREW BROCK
Birth: 08 FEB 1849 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

ROBERT W BROCK b. 1851 February

JOHN FERGUSON BROCK
Birth: 09 DEC 1858 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
JANET WALLACE BROCK
Birth: 13 APR 1861 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
*********************************
*********************************
JANET WALLACE
Birth: 15 MAR 1819 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ROBERT WALLACE
Mother: MARGARET FERGUSON
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
MARGARET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 SEP 1812 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
JEAN WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 MAR 1817 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
JANET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 MAR 1819 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

ROBERT WALLACE
Spouse: MARGARET FERGUSON
Marriage: 20 SEP 1811 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.


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1861 Scotland Census --- COMMENT - This Census is most confusing !
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 60 ...
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jinnet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 St Mungo St
Occupation: Cloths Laper
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_102
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 60
Jinnet Brock 42
Margaret Brock 20
Andrew Brock 12
Robert Brock 10
Agnes Wallace 25
Martha B Black 2
Mary Hamilton 1
William Frager 24
Jaen Frager 60
Jessie Frizer 21
***************************
Name: Jinnet Brock
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: Margaret Brock
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
**************************************
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: Robert Brock *************************
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
***************************************
Name: Agnes Wallace
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
***************************************
Name: Martha B Black
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
*********************************
Name: Mary Hamilton
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: William Frager
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
***********************************
Name: Jaen Frager
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkcaldy, Fife
***********************************
Name: Jessie Frizer
[Jessie Brock]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
********************************
**********************************

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1851 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Janet [Wallace]
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 36 So St Mungo St
Occupation: Cloth Lapper
ED: 3
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_161
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 40
Janet Brock 32 ********Age
Margaret Brock 11 Daughter
Andrew Brock 2 Son
Robert W Brock 2 Mo Son *******
***************************************


Dwelling: 79 So Wellington St
1881 Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203670 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 39 Page 19
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert BROCK M 30 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
Elizabeth BROCK M 31 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
[Gilmour] Rel: Wife
Elizabeth BROCK 6 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Janet BROCK 3 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Barbara BROCK 1 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur

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ROBERT BROCK
Spouse: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Marriage: 17 JUL 1873 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

1891 Children
Elizabeth Brock 16
Janet Brock 13 *****
Barbria Brock 11
Andrew Brock 7
Robert Brock 1
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1871 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Gilmour
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: E Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 627
Registration district: Cambuslang
Civil parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Lilbickhills Farm
Occupation: Darrgmaid Domestic Servt
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_119

N.B. Your maternal grandparents' 1894 marriage image has errors [very common in this business! .... especially Censuses] ... It was not an Ann Fowler, but an Isabella Fowler who had 3 illegitimate kids with Reuben Reid, including your grannie Annie Fowler Reid, who was only 24 not 25 when she married in 1894.  

ROBERT REID
Birth: 12 OCT 1867 Anderston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

ANN REID *******
Birth: 09 JAN 1870 Anderston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

HENRIETTA MARGARET REID
Birth: 22 AUG 1871 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

?????
HENRIETTA MARGARET REID
Birth: 22 AUG 1871 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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1871 Scotland Census
Name: Reuben Reid
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Thurso, Caithnesshire
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 41 Commercial Road
Occupation: Journeyman Tailor
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 124
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_140
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Reid 33
Robert Reid 3 Son
Anne Reid 1 Daughter ******
Isabella Fowler 26
****
Name: Isabella Fowler *******
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Servant ! ! !
Gender: Female
Where born: Invernesshire, Inverness
Registration Number: 644/10
***
Name: Anne Reid
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Reuben
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, L Shire
Registration Number: 644/10
*************************************************
Dwelling: 9 Mains Street
1881 Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203655 GRO Ref Volume 644-7 EnumDist 67 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Ruben REID U 41 M Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Lodger (Head)
Occ: Tailor
Robert REID 13 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Apprentice Jeweller
Ann REID 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
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1881 Scotland Census
Name: Ann Fowler
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Cawdor G, Inverness-Shire
Registration Number: 122
Registration district: Cawdor
Civil parish: Cawdor
County: Nairnshire
Address: Ballintore
Occupation: Agricultular Labourer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_35
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fowler 74
Ann Fowler 36
*****
Name: Ann Fowler
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Croy G, Inverness-Shire
Registration Number: 122
Registration district: Cawdor
Civil parish: Cawdor
County: Nairnshire
Address: Ballintore
Occupation: Forester's Widow
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1861 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella Fowler
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness, Invernessshire
Registration Number: 98
Registration district: Inverness
Civil parish: Inverness
Town: Inverness
County: Inverness
Address: 35 Haugh
Occupation: Housemaid
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 146
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_13
Household Members: Name Age
James Cameron 52
Christina A Cameron 20
Jermina Cameron 18
Isabella Fowler 18
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ISABELLA FOWLER
Birth: 07 DEC 1842
Christening: 05 JAN 1843 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Father: JAMES FOWLER
Mother: ANNE MOORE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
JAMES FOWLER
Spouse: ANN MOIR
Marriage: 01 FEB 1838 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

1. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 NOV 1840
2. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 NOV 1840 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
3. ANN FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 FEB 1850
4. ANN FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 MAR 1850 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
5. JAMES FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 DEC 1838
6. JAMES FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 DEC 1838 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
7. ISABELLA FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 DEC 1842
8. ISABELLA FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 JAN 1843 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
9. CATHARINE FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 OCT 1855 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
10. WILLIAM FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 DEC 1858 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
11. ALEXANDER FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 02 JAN 1853
12. ALEXANDER FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 FEB 1853 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland

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JAMES FOULER
Christening: 12 MAR 1816 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Father: JAMES FOULER
Mother: ISOBEL MCLENNAN
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
1. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 MAR 1808 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland

2. LEXIE FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1813 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland

3. ELIZABETH FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 APR 1810 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland

4. JAMES FOULER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAR 1816 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland


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RHUBARD REID
Birth: 05 OCT 1837
Christening: 06 NOV 1837 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Father: ROBERT REID
Mother: HENRIETTA MCKAY
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record

ROBERT REID
Spouse: HENRIETTA MACKAY
Marriage: 04 DEC 1835 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland

Other Children:
1. RICHARD REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 NOV 1837 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
2. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 AUG 1841 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
3. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 MAR 1841
4. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 SEP 1841 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
5. ROBERT REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 31 AUG 1855 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
6. ESTHER REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 AUG 1839 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
7. WILLIAM BRUCE REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 NOV 1857 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
8. ALEXANDER REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1836 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland

CRAWFORD BOYD
Spouse: ALICE WOOD
Marriage: 07 JUN 1851 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

1. MARGARET BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 OCT 1852 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

2. ELISABETH BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 APR 1861 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

3. ALICE BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 NOV 1862 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

4. MARY BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 AUG 1870 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

5. ELLEN WOOD BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 OCT 1873 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

6. WILLIAM BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 JUN 1865 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

7. AGNES BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JAN 1855 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

8. ALEXANDER BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 NOV 1867 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

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JANET BOYD
Christening: 30 JUN 1819 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JAMES BOYD
Mother: MARGARET CRAWFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

SHUSAN BOYD
Christening: 02 FEB 1806 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JAMES BOYD
Mother: MARGARET CRAWFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

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CRAWFORD BOYD
Spouse: ALICE WOOD
Marriage: 07 JUN 1851 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

1. MARGARET BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 OCT 1852 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

2. ELISABETH BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 APR 1861 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

3. ALICE BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 NOV 1862 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

4. MARY BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 AUG 1870 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

5. ELLEN WOOD BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 OCT 1873 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

6. WILLIAM BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 JUN 1865 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

7. AGNES BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JAN 1855 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

8. ALEXANDER BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 NOV 1867 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

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ELLIS_ WOOD [Alice]
Christening: 19 AUG 1832 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Death: 1896
Father: WILLIAM WOOD
Mother: AGNESS LAMONT
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

WILLIAM WOOD
Spouse: AGNES LAMOND
Marriage: 26 MAY 1821 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Children:
1. AGNESS WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1827 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

2. JANET WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1834 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

3. ELIZABETH WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 JUN 1825 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

4. ELLIS_ WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 AUG 1832 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

5. MARGARET WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 FEB 1838 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

6. SARRAH WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 JUN 1823 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

7. HELLEN WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 AUG 1821 Largs, Ayr, Scotland

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On 19th December 2012 John sent in this note:

Alastair,

Re- the probable father of your grandfather, the illegitimate Alexander Boyd (later called McIntyre) born to Elizabeth Boyd in 1878 in Largs, I have found the only relevant Alexander McMillan candidate for the father.

Assuming fish trade between Largs and Killean/Kenchenzie, Argyll, and knowing from the attached Censuses that both Alexander McMillan Snr. and son Alexander McMillan Jnr. were fishermen, and from your notes that Elizabeth Boyd’s father Crawford Boyd was a prominent fisherman in Largs, young Alexander probably had a liaison with Elizabeth whilst across the water !

Thus, your paternal line blood may well be that of McMillan of Argyll !

Also attached is the death of Jessie (Brock) McIntyre [signed by your father, John G. McIntyre] that shows that Alexander (McMillan/Boyd) McIntyre was still alive in 1946.

I still cannot pin down Alexander’s death, nor the 1909 registration of the birth of your father, John Gilmour McIntyre, although you may have his birth certificate from his papers after his death in 1986.

Aye,

John

Here is my McMillan Genealogy

More genealogy received on 29th July 2013

Modified Register for Alexander Boyd later McIntyre W

First Generation

1. Alexander Boyd later McIntyre [Watchman] was born on 17 Dec 1878 in Gateside St. Largs Ayr Scotland. He died on 19 Mar 1952 in Royal Inf. Glasgow Us. Res. 50 Charlotte Street Glasgow Lanark Scotland. The cause of death was Hypertension Cerebral Thrombosis.

Alexander married Jessie Wallace Brock daughter of Robert Wallace Brock and Elizabeth Gilmour on 4 Sep 1903 in 40 Gateside Street Largs Ayr Scotland. Jessie was born in 1877 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland. She died on 5 Oct 1946 in 133 Balornock Road Us. Res. 21 Plant Street Glasgpw Lanark Scotland.

They had the following children:

i. John McIntyre was born on 7 Jul 1909. He died on 13 Jul 1986.


Second Generation

2. John McIntyre (Alexander) was born on 7 Jul 1909 in Glasgow Lanark Scotland. He died on 13 Jul 1986 in Grangemouth Stirling Scotland.

John married Isabella Fowler Brown daughter of James Brown and Annie Fowler Reid on 16 Jul 1937 in 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. Isabella was born in 1911 in Scotstoun and Yoker Glasgow Lanark Scotland. She died on 24 Aug 1985 in Grangemouth Stirling Scotland.

They had the following children:

i. Alastair McIntyre was born on 31 Jan 1951 in Glasgow Lanark Scotland.

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